Privacy giants are pushing back hard against the proposed Lawful Access Act

• Proton VPN has hit back at Canada’s proposed Bill C-22

• The proposed legislation could require VPNs to log user metadata

• NordVPN and Windscribe have also slammed the bill

  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    11·
    23 hours ago

    defending freedom under the rules of swiss laws, which are pretty neutral when put in worldwide perspective. Also, “defending your freedom” is not equivalent with “selfdestruct for your freedom”. What would have been the alternative? you remind me of this:

    • XLE@piefed.socialBanned from communityEnglish
      13·
      21 hours ago

      “Proton should be honest somewhat”

      “And yet activists stupidly trusted their marketing and signed up!”

      • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
        11·
        20 hours ago

        You still haven’t offered an alternative to cooperating with an court order of the country your business is located in - as long as you can’t do that, every further discussion is pointless.

        • XLE@piefed.socialBanned from communityEnglish
          11·
          20 hours ago

          Why do you have the lowest possible bar for proton while you expect me to do their work for them?

          I want the dishonest company to be honest somewhat. Do you not?

          • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
            1·
            13 hours ago

            You still haven’t offered ANY alternative, and i suspect you don’t have any. As long as you cannot provide any path forward after receiving an court order that doesn’t involve cops kicking down doors and the same end result with a worse future perspective, i can only classify you as a hypocrite.

            • XLE@piefed.socialBanned from communityEnglish
              11·
              13 hours ago

              You still haven’t offered ANY alternative

              …to lying on their website? Not lying. Not hard.

              And you’re the socialist anarchist. You should know how to resist privacy invasion without committing crimes. Right?

                • XLE@piefed.socialBanned from communityEnglish
                  11·
                  12 hours ago

                  Can we at least agree that Proton should stop misleading activists on their homepage?

                  I’m learning so much about you leftists.

                  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
                    1·
                    12 hours ago

                    Switzerland has strong legal protections for individual rights, and in fact the Swiss Federal Constitution(new window) explicitly establishes a constitutional right to privacy. (In the US, this right is merely implied.) Specifically, Article 13 safeguards privacy in personal or family life and within one’s home, and the Swiss Civil Code(new window) translates this right into statutory law in Article 28.

                    In the US and EU, authorities can issue gag orders to prevent an individual from knowing they are being investigated or under surveillance. While this type of order also exists in Switzerland, the prosecutors have an obligation to notify the target of surveillance, and the target has an opportunity to appeal in court. In Switzerland, there are no such things as national security letters, and all surveillance requests must go through the courts. Warrantless surveillance, like that practiced in the US where the FBI conducts 3.4 million searches per year(new window) with little oversight, is illegal and not permitted in Switzerland.

                    Switzerland also benefits from a unique legal provision with Article 271 of the Swiss Criminal Code(new window), which forbids any Swiss company from assisting foreign law enforcement, under threat of criminal penalty. While Switzerland is party to certain international legal assistance agreements, all requests under such agreements must hold up under Swiss law, which has much stricter privacy provisions. All foreign requests are assessed by the Swiss government, which generally does not assist requests from countries with poor rule of law or lack an independent judiciary.

                    I do not see even ONE misleading statement here.

                    ETA: This has nothing to do with my political stance. It is simply the reality of the world we live in. If you found a company, you have the option to choose which country you base your business in - but you don’t have the luxury of defining your own legal code.