I don’t think “artificial intelligence” is the correct term for what we have now, because it implies it was artifically created but still intelligent. To me we’re still at the stage of simulating intelligence, which isn’t the same thing.
I prefer the term Computer Intelligence to Artificial Intelligence or Synthetic Intelligence. It grounds the term in the computational logic of a math rock, and allows the intelligence not be a ‘pass/fail’, but rather what scales to what’s been discovered.
It covers modern LLMs, but also includes classic fuzzy logic, probabilistic calculations, Bayesian networks, etc.
Woz is the best
I didn’t know he was a father.
He could have been Elon rich, but he gave it all away and instead donates his meagre wealth tj schools and museums and shit. He was on slashdot recently and he said he was happy with his life. He’s a good guy. I wish him well.
fuck society for telling us that being super rich is the “winning state”.
he has enough to never have to worry about anything in his life, and he’s respected and beloved. that’s orders of magnitude a better situation than any billionaire.
Ah but you don’t crave xternal validation to such an extent that could never ever be satisfied
I wouldn’t want to be seen with any of those super rich cunts. I couldn’t fathom worse people to hang around with.
they are mentally ill, the type where they should be locked up for the safety of others and their own.
How much of this do you think can be tied back to good parents?
I don’t really know. My parents suck. And for a while I did too, but I outgrew what my parents taught me and am now I better person.
Ok for arguments sake then how much is actually tied to a person’s ability to self-respect and grow? I imagine it’s far less common than we may think?
He always was a good guy. Ripped off by Steve Jobs. Steve was brilliant but he ranked very low on empathy. It’s surprising that he was a good speaker. Sam Altman and Zuckerberg is more like the pictures of a smart psychopath but Steve wasn’t like that.
Woz’s net worth is estimated to be $100 million to $140 million. So, he’s certainly no billionaire, but he doesn’t exactly have meager wealth either. Honestly, I view $100 million as about the most a person should realistically have to still be remotely a normal person. After that, it’s really just excess and power. That’s enough where you’ve definitely won life - you can have lots of toys, a mansion, never need to work again, a very nice income in perpetuity, etc.
He said he’s got about $10M and a couple of homes last year https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/steve-wozniak-net-worth/
Oh. He’s more rich than I thought.
There’s a lie that incredible wealth makes people happier. That has never been true. It can remove certain stressors from your life, but it’s a trade. It comes at a cost. You have new stressors and those cannot ever be satisfied.
It’s not just a belief. There’s been studies confirming this. After a certain point adding wealth does nothing to your happiness. Go far enough and you end up miserable, enslaved by your wealth.
It’s a trap. Only a fool wants to be rich.
Woz understood this. He’s the real deal. Jobs did not. Jobs was a pretty damaged person and kept trying to fill that hole with wealth. It didn’t work. It just made him rich and angry. Woz was well adjusted and comfortable. He’s getting what he actually wanted out of life.
John Carmack is another one. For all he’s done, his net worth is only 50 million, but he spends his time developing new tech. I wouldn’t say Carmack is well adjusted, but he doesn’t seem to think making the lives of other people worse will make his life better.
Carmack very visibly just enjoys mental exercise. Watch any of his Quakecon keynotes if anyone needs to see it for themselves. The fact that it results in groundbreaking code for game engines, VR hyper-low latency algorithms, and rocketships is just a byproduct.
And that’s probably the best way to not be turned into an alien by money: never be in it for the result, always find happiness in the process.
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I thought we hated all billionaires. When we eat the rich, will he be spared?
I would… Just wondering what the rest of ya’ll think. There are some pretty hardcore folks on lemmy who would guillotine anyone with even $1M net worth.
I thought we hated all billionaires
Steve Wozniak’s net worth is like 10 million. That’s far from a billionaire
I know a lot of folk that are among the 1% in my country (Poland). I used to be there either, but then the bracket went higher and I lost my income. It’s actually not that hard to get there and most of people thete are aware that they are just a glorified middle class, not the nobility. I’m talking about the people earning 3-4x the median, as it is enough to get you to the 1%.
I say, let them aspire for their supercars, just never allow them to possess a wealth vast enough they could militarize it.
Yeah, if we’ve gotta have capitalism at least turn down the volume a bit.
He’s not a billionaire (net worth 140 million) and donates a significant portion of his wealth to worthy causes. Of course we spare The Woz.
A million is earnable through hard work and smart decisions through one’s lifetime, a billion is absolutely not.
I’d put another zero or 2 on there for what’s earnable with hard work and smart decisions. A million these days is like upper middle class. It’s a nice, but fairly normal, house in most parts of the country and a good start on a retirement fund. Point is still valid though.
I think some luck plays into this too, and I think a good person recognizes this.
Yeah maybe in California where the Cost of Living is abnormally high compared to the rest of the US and the rest of western countries.
Speaking from Norway: I can agree that order-of-magnitude 10 million USD is earnable in a lifetime. A wage of 100 k USD / yr isn’t absurdly high, and after 45 years that brings you to 4.5 million. So getting to like 10-30 million in a lifetime is still within what I would consider reasonably possible. At 100 mill. it’s getting pretty absurd though.
You just forgot one teeny-tiny thing right there, called taxes. If you have a job paying you 100k a year, that’s not the amount that gets transferred to your bank account. In fact, in high-tax countries you prolly only see like half of that. And also don’t forget rent and food and stuff like that, which reduces the amount of money you can actually spend on stuff you want even further. So yeah, considering all of that it will be difficult to even achieve a million bucks.
He’s the last techno-hippy in the age of techno-fascists
He doesn’t have to be. 🪞
Woz continues to be the good Steve.
The Great and Powerful Woz strikes again.
Wooooooooozz!
Holy shit I forgot code monkeys existed.
Such a great show! I’m due for a watch thru. Gonna start that tonight!
No, it was a bad show, but it was bad in an enjoyable way. It was aqua teen trash. We all love aqua teen but we aren’t watching it looking for philosophical lessons or deeper meaning. We watch be because we are stoned and judge Judy isn’t on.
this is not the case for Xavier renegade Angel. which is widely known for its philosophical quandries and other enlightened intellectualism and shit
That reminds me, I need to watch love death and robots. I downloaded it after seeing a few clips from the robots touring the ruins of humanity episode. I just never had the time to sit down and watch it.
I’ve been banging my head against my desk trying to fix a fucking Voron for 2 months instead. Ugh!
It’s worth it! That show did so many clever things. And they’re all short and so wildly different from one another that if one isn’t doing it for you, you can always skip to the next one.
Even if we live in the darkest timeline, at least we still have this Steve!
It’s the best Steve. Maybe he wouldn’t have founded a global brand is e Jobs didn’t do his job.
But he’d still be an awesome nerd Lord
I was also referring to Steve Irwin, but yes; Jobs. Jobs was the face of capitalism whereas Woz was the brains & heart of what could & should’ve been.
Now I want to watch Pirates of Silicon Valley again
A celebrity graduation speaker that actually has something thoughtful to say that is realistic, relevant, and inspirational to the graduates? That’s crazy, everyone knows celebrity graduation speakers are supposed to be self absorbed and prattling on about the stuff that excites them without connecting to the graduates, except maybe to be dismissive of the graduates and look down on them.
I don’t have many nice things to say about Apple but that guy is a legend
The Wozniak era of Apple was pretty much all upside. Whatever less than nice things to say at Apple almost certainly came about more than a decade after he had left them.
It’s serving different pressures. Woz served the makers, the needs. He’s the Adam Savage of that generation. Jobs is a techbro. He’s innit for the money. He doesn’t care how or why it does a thing. He just needs to jerk off the investors. He was incredibly skilled at what he did, don’t get me wrong. He was absolutely brilliant there.
But they served different masters.
Man is goated, he’s always on the hardware side. The Apple II era was the better era for DIY mods, complete opposite of the anti-repair hyperconsumerism of the corporation today.
the lid of the Apple II popped off toolless. They included fucking schematics.
He’s always been a great guy 👏 And an amazing engineer
Steve Woz has always been such a fuckin’ chad.
It’s so weird to me for that term has flipped
Hanging chads will always be uncool
Not boos? Oh
not boobs, either, apparently
Not booze either, 😣
Well not with that attitude!
Nah though, for real, let’s not disrespect Woz like that.
Pretty sure he got boobs
They left those for the afterparty
What variation works for gay people? Poon?
Moobs?
It’s still boobs, but the “b” stands for balls instead of breasts.
Source: I’m bi
That was fantastic. Thanks
Yea…
