I have seen some critical views on Nostr as a part of decentralized network discussions, but most seem to be focused on culture not function.

What are the functional / protocol differences that make you prefer ActivityPub over Nostr?

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    9 hours ago

    Legal compliance is different from legally unnecessary moderation.

    Right, so there would still need to be moderators. And if they can remove that, they can remove anything.

    Not the topic of discussion, which is function & protocol.

    Right, but you’re just gunna have an unpleasant time here if you loath all moderation. It’s that simple.

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      And if they can remove that, they can remove anything.

      That’s why there’s no limit on the number of relays (events usually publish to multiple) or subscriptions to them (clients usually subscribe to multiple).

      unpleasant time here if you loath all moderation

      Still off topic, and the moderators here aren’t reddit moderator scum so far. The modlog offers decent transparency.

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        That’s why there’s no limit on the number of relays (events usually publish to multiple) or subscriptions to them (clients usually subscribe to multiple).

        I’m lost. If a mod removes child porn on NOSTR, it removes it for everyone, right?

        Still off topic, and the moderators here aren’t reddit moderator scum so far.

        Well, sure, but you can still be moderated.

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          44 minutes ago

          I’m lost. If a mod removes child porn on NOSTR, it removes it for everyone, right?

          No moderators. A relay operator can remove it from their relay. There’s any number of relays. It’s roughly like usenet with respect to server-side content removal.

          Strange to ask me when authoritative information is public online. Seems you don’t know much about nostr.

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            42 minutes ago

            So the child porn still remains present, effectively.

            So Ada described Nostr like this:

            "Nostr uses relays. In some ways, a relay is like an instance on the fediverse. Where they differ though, is that a) relays don’t talk to each other and b) users can sign up to many different relays and pull/push content to all of them.

            So in practice, in order to see a wide amount of content, you need to end up connecting to multiple relays. And even though a relay does have some moderation capabilities to block content, unless every relay you use blocks the content from the bigoted account, you’ll see it.

            If you signed up only to a single relay, and that relay had good moderation, then in theory, your Nostr experience wouldn’t be terrible, but a single niche relay like that will mean you see basically no content. And as soon as you connect to a larger public relay to get more content, you lose all of the moderation advantages offered by your first instance. Which means in practice, there is no incentive to run a well moderated instance.

            And so all of the moderation ends up on the end user, who has to manually block accounts only after they appear and dump their load of hate (at which point, the bigot will just spin up another account). Some people prefer that experience, but when you’re the regular target of hate, that approach just doesn’t work for many folk."

            This is accurate?