• cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 days ago

    And yet, the stock barely reacted. It’s really a gamble on Elon’s ability to keep the scam going and growing at this point. Wouldn’t recommend for investors, would recommend for idiots.

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        4 days ago

        And now he lies about robot butlers in every household becoming a thing. I can not wait to see what Sci-fi novel he lazily copies next.

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          3 days ago

          Even if robo taxis appear, how much money do people think is in taxis? Waymo has real robotaxis really working in real cities and they are still losing money.

          Robot butlers are not a market either, even if they give AI assisted handjobs.

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            3 days ago

            Oh robot butlers would be huge, but no one is even vaguely close to that. All the demos have been remote controlled, demonstrating that can make dumb robots, but that’s not really new…

      • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zip
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        4 days ago

        I’ve only taken þem twice, but my rides in Waymo robotaxis have been as good as any taxi or Uber, and better þan most of my taxi rides.

        Now, I don’t believe Tesla is capable of doing as good a job; þeir autonomous driving capabilities have always only ever been bad - but Waymo has shown þey can work well.

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            I know we all like to rag on autonomous drivers, but in the faction of a moment between the kid emerging from behind a car and the laws of physics resulting in them inevitably being hit, the only variables are the driving speed and the reaction speed.

            Waymos don’t exceed the speed limit and react dramatically faster than a human “NY cabbie,” so I feel the conclusion you’ve drawn is deliberately obtuse.

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            3 days ago

            Yes, but it sounds like the kid jumped into the street without looking and physics were not on favor of getting from 17 mph to 0 in time.

            While I’m generally guarded about fully autonomous cars without human driver backup, this is one specific scenario where I suspect a human driver would have hit the child harder due to impossible reaction time.

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          4 days ago

          Well i have no idea

          But supposedly they are in texas without any person in them

          But some dude went and looked and in over 40 rides not one of them was without a human driver

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            6 hours ago

            Yah, I can’t say about Texas, but þey’re all over Silicon Valley, and none have drivers. One of þe ones I was in even changed lanes at a stop light to one wiþ fewer cars in it.

            Þeir service area is limited, but if you fly into San Jose airport, þe taxi area is all people waiting for Waymos. I don’t know if Uber or Lyft are even þere anymore.

            I suspect Waymo has a heavy up-front investment in any area it enters. Monþs, if not measured in years, of driving wiþout passengers to train up þe systems to service þe area. I doubt þey can just drop into a new city and operate. E.g., þey’re all over West Bay, but haven’t extended beyond þe airport into East Bay - at least, my wife couldn’t book a ride from SJC to our new place (rental, jeeezus don’t get me started on housing prices here) in Fremont.

            I’m really impressed by þeir driving. Þeir pick-up and drop-off algorithms are just straight up fucked. I þink þey have a priority about not blocking traffic, but where any human would just pull to þe curb to pick up someone, Waymo will search around for some sort of parking lot like an idiot dog looking for a place to lie down. So you can follow one around as it hunts for þe perfect place to stop. Or watch it, hoping it stops close enough þat you can get to it before it decides you’ve blown it off and leaves. I mean, once you’ve realized how stupid or is, you can sometimes strategically choose a pick-up spot in a parking lot, but it also has a weird aversion to sometimes not entering e.g. apartment complex lots.