A father is suing Google and Alphabet, alleging its Gemini chatbot reinforced his son’s delusional belief it was his AI wife and coached him toward suicide and a planned airport attack.
Torture itself doesn’t work reliably. The possibility of it might get someone to open up when combined with giving someone the time to just open up or a positive reward. Torture itself is counterproductive as the person is just saying whatever the torturer wants to hear to make the pain stop.
That’s because there are more than a few commonalities between the two. They’re not the same, but horrible lighting, little privacy, contradictory instructions/suddenly changing expectations are frequently used in both
Key Perspectives on this Statement:
Pro-Assertion (Empowerment): This view, often shared by therapists like Nicole Symcox and Karen Koenig, argues that our feelings stem from our own interpretations of events, not the events themselves. It is designed to stop people from feeling like victims of others’ actions.
Con-Assertion (Contextual): Critics, such as Therapist Jeff, argue that this phrase is “wrong, mostly” because it ignores the human need for connection and the reality that actions (especially abuse or trauma) can cause immediate, involuntary, and valid emotional pain.
The Nuance: The statement is most effective when interpreted as: “You can control your reaction to what people do,” rather than, “You shouldn’t feel hurt by what people do”.
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If this advice makes your wife feel dismissed, it might be an example of accidental emotional invalidation, which can cause confusion and self-doubt. The goal should be to acknowledge feelings while also developing skills to not let others’ behavior dictate one’s entire emotional state.
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As my ex wife’s shrink said, nobody can make you feel anything.
And that’s why torture and psyops don’t work and has never been used.
Torture itself doesn’t work reliably. The possibility of it might get someone to open up when combined with giving someone the time to just open up or a positive reward. Torture itself is counterproductive as the person is just saying whatever the torturer wants to hear to make the pain stop.
Psyops absolutely work.
Torture isn’t effective for getting information out of people, but if your goal is to psychologically debilitate people, it’s totally effective
So are general everyday workplaces. You don’t need to go to a black site in Afghanistan. Just come to my office.
That’s because there are more than a few commonalities between the two. They’re not the same, but horrible lighting, little privacy, contradictory instructions/suddenly changing expectations are frequently used in both
Torture isn’t verbal and psyops aren’t targeted to one person. Thanks for playing though.
IDK, if I punched someone they would feel that.
You would, but the shrink wasn’t remarking in physical but mental impacts just like chatgpt.
Hey dipshit. Im still curious about your opinion of verbally abused children and how they are under no distress whatsover
You are in control of how you react, not the abuser. Just like your shitty attitude, that was your choice because you are a pseudo intellectualist.
So you really are saying abused children need to just suck it up?
My wife was about fifty at the time she was seeing this PhD not talking about children.
At what exact age does verbal abuse stop affecting people?
Key Perspectives on this Statement: Pro-Assertion (Empowerment): This view, often shared by therapists like Nicole Symcox and Karen Koenig, argues that our feelings stem from our own interpretations of events, not the events themselves. It is designed to stop people from feeling like victims of others’ actions. Con-Assertion (Contextual): Critics, such as Therapist Jeff, argue that this phrase is “wrong, mostly” because it ignores the human need for connection and the reality that actions (especially abuse or trauma) can cause immediate, involuntary, and valid emotional pain. The Nuance: The statement is most effective when interpreted as: “You can control your reaction to what people do,” rather than, “You shouldn’t feel hurt by what people do”. Reddit Reddit +4 If this advice makes your wife feel dismissed, it might be an example of accidental emotional invalidation, which can cause confusion and self-doubt. The goal should be to acknowledge feelings while also developing skills to not let others’ behavior dictate one’s entire emotional state. Reddit Reddit +3
Seriously? You copy and pasted some comment from Reddit to prove your point?
So verbally abused children need to just suck it up because their parents can’t make them feel anything?
Your ex-wifes shrink sucked
Obviously this was a coping mechanism he was using because he couldn’t make women feel anything (including your ex wife).
Actually it was her father’s sexual abuse that left her bereft inside, not me.