This is crazy. I’ve literally been saying they are fallible. You’re saying your professional fed and LLM some type of dataset. So I can’t really say what it was you’re trying to accomplish but I’m just arguing that trying to have it process data is not what they’re trained to do. LLM are incredible tools and I’m tired of trying to act like they’re not because people keep using them for things they’re not built to do. It’s not a fire and forget thing. It does need to be supervised and verified. It’s not exactly an answer machine. But it’s so good at parsing text and documents, summarizing, formatting and acting like a search engine that you can communicate with rather than trying to grok some arcane sentence. Its power is in language applications.

It is so much fun to just play around with and figure out where it can help. I’m constantly doing things on my computer it’s great for instructions. Especially if I get a problem that’s kind of unique and needs a big of discussion to solve.

What does “I give it data to put in a formulaic sentence.” mean here

Why not just share the details. I often find a lot of people saying it’s doing crazy things and never like to share the details. It’s very similar to discussing things with Trump supporters who do the same shit when pressed on details about stuff they say occurs. Like the same “you’re a troll for asking for evidence of my claim” that trumpets do. It’s wild how similar it is.

And yes asking to do things like iterate over rows isn’t how it works. It’s getting better but that’s not what it’s primarily used for. It could be but isn’t. It only catches so many tokens. It’s getting better and has some persistence but it’s nowhere near what its strength is.

There’s a sleep button on my laptop. Doesn’t mean I would use it.

I’m just trying to say you’re saying the feature that everyone kind of knows doesn’t work. Chatgpt is not trained to do calculations well.

I just like technology and I think and fully believe the left hatred of it is not logical. I believe it stems from a lot of media be and headlines. Why there’s this push From media is a question I would like to know more. But overall, I see a lot of the same makers of bullshit yellow journalism for this stuff on the left as I do for similar bullshit on the right wing spaces towards other things.

Why are you giving it data. It’s a chat and language tool. It’s not data based. You need something trained to work for that specific use. I think Wolfram Alpha has better tools for that.

I wouldn’t trust it to calculate how many patio stones I need to build a project. But I trust it to tell me where a good source is on a topic or if a quote was said by who ever or if I need to remember something but I only have vague pieces like old timey historical witch burning related factoid about villagers who pulled people through a hole in the church wall or what was a the princess who was skeptic and sent her scientist to villages to try to calm superstitious panic .

Other uses are like digging around my computer and seeing what processes do what. How concepts work regarding the think I’m currently learning. So many excellent users. But I fucking wouldn’t trust it to do any kind of calculation.

😆 I can’t believe how absolutely silly a lot of you sound with this.

LLM is a tool. It’s output is dependent on the input. If that’s the quality of answer you’re getting, then it’s a user error. I guarantee you that LLM answers for many problems are definitely adequate.

It’s like if a carpenter said the cabinets turned out shit because his hammer only produces crap.

Also another person commented that seen the pattern you also see means we’re psychotic.

All I’m trying to suggest is Lemmy is getting seriously manipulated by the media attitude towards LLMs and these comments I feel really highlight that.

Search AI in Lemmy and check out every article on it. It definitely is media spreading all the hate. And like this article is often some money yellow journalism

Whoa that’s like how many colors there are

Are you guys sure. The media seems to be where a lot of LLM hate originates.

Ok what about tech journalists who produced articles with those misunderstandings. Surely they know better yet still produce articles like this. But also people who care enough about this topic to post these articles usually I assume know better yet still spread this crap

How often do tech journalist get things wrong?

Agree with that too. I just think I’m getting really frustrated with how much the trump party has won. I’m noticing things changing especially in left wing spaces vs right and I hope it doesn’t continue

I guess it’s just not adding anything. And when a post is filled with it then it devalues the whole place and it makes it harder to find people with something of substance. It also makes it more likely for people with something to say to avoid these places as it just becomes toxic and annoying to wade through “hey fuck that guy” comments. Who wants to read that over and over and over again on every post

I really don’t know how to put in to words what is annoying about it other than it sucks. Like it’s a terrible shitty lazy comment. It’s cancer. I don’t know. It just sucks

What the fuck is this comment

Don’t they lay this amount off every year?

Their workforce is upwards of 200,000. During COVID it was only 100,000. 2006 it was 60,000. But they lay off 9000 and it’s because of AI?

Why is this AI and not just business as usual?

I’ve been saying for a bit that these AI headlines in Lemmy are similar to anti immigrant headlines in Republican social media groups. I feel like this is just more evidence of it. It’s yellow journalism tactics

Media forcing opinions using the same framework they always use.

Regardless if it’s the right or the left. Media is owned by people lik the Koch and bannons and Murdoch’s even left leading media.

They don’t want the left using AI or building on it. They’ve been pushing a ton of articles to left leaning spaces using the same framework they use when it’s election season and are looking to spin up the right wing base. It’s all about taking jobs, threats to children, status quo.

Do you think any of these articles are lying or that these are not intended to generate certain sentiments towards immigrants?

Are they valid concerns to be aware of?

The reason I’m asking is because could you not say the same about any of these articles even though we all know exactly what the NY Post is doing?

Compare it to posts on Lemmy with AI topics. They’re the same.

Think more about the intended audience.

This isn’t about melanoma. The media has been pushing yellow journalism like this regarding AI since it became big.

It’s similar to how right wing media would push headlines about immigrant invasions. Hating on AI is the left’s version of illegal immigrants.

Can’t wait for the “electric cars are killing children” research next

It’s both honestly. Overall I think the issue is rooted more in culture. Not tech. Secondly I am starting to question the role of media in yellow journalism to sell ads online by catering to crowds