

I don’t think you understand the fact that the DMA allows fines of up to 20% of a company’s global total turnover for repeated infractions.
And how many times has that happened?
None? Great, we’re on the same page now.
Nope. I don’t talk about myself like that.
I don’t think you understand the fact that the DMA allows fines of up to 20% of a company’s global total turnover for repeated infractions.
And how many times has that happened?
None? Great, we’re on the same page now.
The only mechanism of “enforcement” that the EU is levying is fees/fines. M$ can absorb a large amount of fees/fines pretty readily if it means complete market capture.
There is no “force” here when it’s just the “cost of doing business”.
The EU isn’t raiding M$'s headquarters and capturing board members/C-suites. There is no “force”.
I mean they kind of are? It’s not like M$ couldn’t just pay the fines and keep things as is.
There’s also Wix for very simple page builds.
Your in self hosting community… You can’t build in Wix and selfhost. Wix relies on their infrastructure always being present.
If your neighbour can also get symmetrical internet with a residential contract, then that would be the better example to prove his point wrong.
Sure, but I don’t get their bill now do I?
A business contract is not a good comparison because they usually are symmetrical for a premium price regardless of the quality of the residential internet in your area.
Which was the point of me bringing it up… my price is likely higher than my neighbor. But I know that the same speeds are available. Symmetric.
Once again though… Without more information we can’t actually compare but at face value… I pay 5.89 times for for presumably 8-80 times more speed. EVEN ON MY BUSINESS CONTRACT. Hard to say that their service is categorically better than mine…
He provided details about his non-business internet being symmetrical and YOU compared it to your business contract line, that’s literally how it started.
To my residential house… of which my neighbor can get the same service, under a residential contract. Also they didn’t say if their internet was residential or not.
The cost is to prove that Americans do not have easy access to the same level of internet his country has, which is his main point. You needed to purchase a business line to have it symmetrical, which is not accessible to the everyone.
No. My neighbor can also get 8/8, under a different SLA as residential. I only provided “under business contract” because that changes the price.
Just because you can pay 100 times the cost of healthcare in European countries to get high quality heathcare in America, it doesn’t mean the average American can afford to go to the hospital or that your healthcare system is just as good. The same thing applies to your internet.
You’re not making a good look for your stance when you over hyperbolize the situation. I pay 5.89 times more… for what could be 8-80 times more speed. We don’t know because THERE IS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION.
You need to scroll up and pay attention.
Them:
My ISP offers symmetrical […] glad I’m not American
Me:
As someone living in America, I have great internet
Them:
<Requests direct information about cost>
Me:
<I oblige>
Them:
<makes a comparison without qualifying anything about the comparison, claiming theirs to be superior>
Me:
<calls it out>
They provided no details at all… this whole engagement. We still don’t actually know what speeds they even get for their mere 28USD. Could be 100mbps and it would be significantly worse by ever metric than my 8gbps. I can’t compare my service to something that we have no details for.
Are you okay?
I didn’t compare mine to yours at all. You’re the one that said your 28 USD service was a better deal. YOU made the comparison. YOU asked for the details.
Yup the old one… here’s the new one too… still unaddressed
Not without additional context it’s not… Is your service 8gbps? Do you have SLAs in place? Will your ISP send you hate mail after using a mere 10TB of data?
And yet most people will just type “facebook” into the omnibar in their browser and click the first result that google gives them.
Yes… A LOT, and I do mean a significantly plurality… have no fucking clue what a URL is.
Last time someone was worried about the security it was about knowing filenames of the stuff you host by brute forcing iirc
Knowing (guessing) the file path allows them to access and stream the content. Meaning worst case scenario… Sony (the people known for putting malicious stuff on CDs) can probe your server, and prove the content is there because your server will return the movie file itself.
$165/mo. Under business contract.
Edit: No caps either… Last 30 days 11TB download, 175TB upload.
https://blog.cloudflare.com/updated-tos
The proxy will auto-CDN content. You need to disable CDN in order to stay in line with TOS. You can use one of the available rules to “fix” this… but this will already be even more above the general person’s head that it’s just better to tell people to not proxy the plex/jellyfin domain at all.
Feels good not being American.
Weird, I live in America, have 8gbps symmetrical and am not CGnatted. Odd for you to so blindly exclaim what you did.
setting it up with cloudflare
don’t proxy the jellyfin domain through cloudflare. They don’t like transiting video and will kill your account for it, especially if you’re just a free user.
I guess it is! Never saw that there… Bunch of clicks to get to it though. A link to a page is much simpler IMO…
My phone has that too… but only for the signed in network. Not for other networks that are saved on the device. I have a guest network that I shove guests on that have some restrictions (blocked from homelab network for the most part). I would need to swap to that network myself then click share…
You pull it up on another phone.
The owner pulls it up on THEIR phone, so you can just have the guest scan the QR code.
Edit: or my usecase would be to put it on a tablet that I have on a stand near the front door.
https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/first-fines-issued-eu-digital-markets-act
Yes… it’s only been 1.1 months since they’ve first issued fines under the DMA… What a long and litigated history! Definitely shows what you claim it does over it *checks notes* 2 issued fines ever.
Funny part is, DMA has been law since MAY 2023. So in 2 years… it issued 2 fines ever… less than 2 months ago.
But right! NO COMPANY EVER DARES IGNORE IT!
LMFAO. Right.
https://www.theverge.com/news/627522/apple-meta-eu-dma-antitrust-fines
Weird… Doesn’t sound like the commission even wants to issue fines at all!