I don’t see the problem: NASA was a state agency, SpaceX is private.

lives are literally at stake, grow the fuck up.

Elon Musk decided to wreck USAID. The death toll is ghoulish. This dickwad said “the fundamental weakness of western civilization is empathy”.

If we speak about SpaceX and Tesla, well, it don’t seems to do that bad after all.

haha tesla is cratering in the EU and that cybertruck sure is a winner. pfft

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-sales-europe-plunge-backlash-protests-elon-musk/

https://futurism.com/cybertruck-sales-bad

You are so detached from reality it’s disgusting. This discussion has been absolutely pointless.

When NASA was developing the rocket to go to the moon (the Apollo V) they had their large shares of failures, exactly like SpaceX is having now while developing Starship (and before it, the Falcon 9) which is even more complex and bigger than the Apollo V.

this is a specious comparison. NASA was racing the soviets using 1950 and 60’s tech, and it cost lives, but there was a driving motivation for the tempo (kennedy’s goal of humans on the moon first). There’s no contemporary equivalent. And no NASA director was EVER ON HORSE DRUGS. Period.

Nor did any NASA director ever try to manage multiple fortune 500 companies WHILE on ketamine while DANCING AROUND WITH A CHAINSAW and fucking with our government.

Your comparison is invalid.

Wait, do you really think that Musk is the one that is doing all the jobs at Tesla and SpaceX ?

No, I think he’s distorting the work of thousands of talented people (Shotwell down) for EGO. If he truly cared he’d step down.

None of this is complex. I’m glad you speak english well enough to reorder your thoughts in a comprehensible manner, but the premise remains unchanged. Musk represents a larger threat to SpaceX and NASA and the US than any potential benefit to those same parties.

I will feel free to attack musk, didn’t need your permission but thanks!

is not that NASA when developed the rocket that culminated with the Apollo V did not even had a rocket exploding

dude english, wtf is this sentence even supposed to say? are you an LLM?

fucking hell.

Then that Musk is sometime a little too borderline is true, but I suppose that now he cannot really ruin any of his companies, for whatever you can think about him I really doubt that he is that stupid.

again with the word salad. english better be your third or 4th language.

if you doubt his stupidity, then evaluate the logic of doing large amounts OF HORSE TRANQUALIZER WHILE MANAGING MULTIPLE COMPANIES AND LAUNCHING ROCKETS.

Come on, make that one make sense word salad llm

You think my dislike of Musk is all of spaceX. I don’t want him ruining spaceX. Musk is responsible for the launch cadence that keeps exploding, if you’d like to make comparisons.

then defend his drug use. defend doge. come on, make rational arguments for the bullshit, oh, you can’t, that’s why you’re down to insults.

look fuckwit, you couldn’t find your point with a flashlight and a map, and you’re telling me to remove my rectum from MY CRANIUM? You want a man addled on horse tranq to run the only company producing orbital launch for the US.

I think it’s your head that’s rectum-fied. In fact, this entire discourse is dragging me down to your level. Gonna block you, should have done it before. Enjoy your ketamine kid, hope when he’s responsible for killing astronauts you pause and reflect.

pfft

But obviously you seems to not understand

Yeah, and obviously, you only have a passing familiarity with the english language.

ffs have better standards in your selection of contractors. or perhaps you’re on too much horse tranq too.

I never claimed to like Elon. I don’t. I never expressed support for this administration’s policies. I don’t.

you just defend his right to run spaceX on specialK.

mmkay bud.

how can you be so casually apathetic about saddling our soldiers sailors airmen and spaceforce with the products of a horse drug addled asshole?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/us/elon-musk-drugs-children-trump.html

What kind of prick tells these people VOLUNTEERING TO DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY “hey man, the ketamine kid is the only way!” - how are you comfortable or confident in the products produced when he’s tripping balls in the oval office?

meh. this is a pointless argument, I’m never going to convince these elon fanboys their hero is a prick

ok freedumb, I get it, you’re not reading, just responding. gonna block you now

I don’t think what I’m saying is controversial.

no, it’s simply business as usual, nothing ever changes, nothing ever improves, and fuck you america, that’s the way it has to be because reasons.

I strongly suspect NASA can manage spaceX better than the ketamine kid. Why don’t you give a fuck about those astronauts who have to put their faith in his hardware? why don’t you give a fuck about the kids who are growing up in an age where that drug addled prick is put up as an icon of success?

Do you really think soldiers sailors and airmen (and spacemonkeys) should have to rely on that HORSE DRUG ADDICTED PRICK for their mission critical infrastructure?

If you do, fuck right off, you’re either a musk fanboy or stockholder.

Either way, get bent.

sure thing bud. I’m not going to waste my afternoon going through your shitstream to point out how you’re wrong, I simply have better things to do with my life. in fact, gonna block you now, QOL plus

Sure thing sport. I must be a tankie lol. You toolbag

you genuinely don’t care that critical national infrastructure - literally our ability to put stuff into orbit - is compromised by this penny ante shitbird. I get it, fanboys don’t use logic.

You haven’t put your eggs in any basket.

$38 billion in government funding. huh.

what reality do you live in?

By your logic spaceX should stop taking gov $ then.

Just because something is private doesn’t mean they should get public funding.

remember the halcyon days when NASA could do something and the president might not like it, but they were all FUCKING ADULTS and the grift was well distributed amongst the congresscreatures, so it never devolved into adolescent twitter whining?

goddamn those were better than whatever this shit is

isn’t it amazing how much private companies can do when given hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars from the federal teat?

wow. that private enterprise just rocketing up out of the atmosphere by yanking on it’s bootstraps so hard.

just, you know, after a few more hundred million, burp. ahem. just a few more.

Tankies

boy howdy you’ve got the entire strawman army mustered in this thread.

The precedent that will set and the implications

and what precedent is there for dealing with the executive of your country’s entire space launch infrastructure when they become dependent on horse drugs?

No really, what’s the precedent here, I want to know. Because if we set a precedent by ignoring it until the problem is impossible to ignore, that’s gonna be a far more expensive fix.

So yeah, yeah we should consider this very strongly.