Well that explains a lot about Lemmy’s strong dislike for AI with a burning passion.
Sounds like confirmarion bias.
I’d like to know the industry sector they are working in.
I’d say a high amount of them work in Tech and IT.That’s because they’re all on lemmy
Opposed people, or today who know what it’s like to be oppressed, are more likely to recognize oppression.
AI is going to fuck us all at this rate. It’s already begun. People are losing their jobs.
Losing jobs is just the tip of the iceberg, individualized, friendly mass manipulation is where the shit hits the fan in a whole new way
Man between this and the “AI vegan” bullshit article, they really want to get ahead on crushing any thought that AI is bad. At least by easily manipulated groups.
Like the kind of person that thinks vegans and trans = easily manipulated, because they’ll never consider the point might be manipulating their own biases against those groups.
Yes exactly. They are manipulating the “unwashed masses” that think anything different from them is bad. Bro Jogan die hards etc.
I think it’s also in an effort to other those who are against AI as it’s being done rn
Yep. Making them an outcast class ahead of any firm resistance.
Knowledge based fields were historically a “safe space” for queer and disabled people. If you are just super fucking smart and could be a wizard in a programming language, or were a genius physicist, you could get to the point where you were too valuable to fire for being trans or disabled. I may be trans and an unperson in the place I live, but I can do calculus, and there’s no way they can take that away from me.
There’s an attack on knowledge itself going on right now. A desire by the rich to control information. They want to force us into an unreality where skill and knowledge are meaningless. This hurts people who are socially marginalized, because it takes away one of our few paths for economic survival.
It goes with the attacks on DEI. What they want is a tool that can replace the need for talent, so that they can select who gets to have jobs. They want all jobs to be Graeber’s “bullshit jobs” so that skill is meaningless and they can allot them out to the people they think “deserve” them.
What kinda bullshit narrative is this?
One that divides people in lower tax brackets
Ragebait
In the words of Miyazaki:
Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is whatsoever. I am utterly disgusted. If you really want to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it. I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself.
It’s mathematically an insult to life itself. It changes evolution in human societies to reduce dissent and diversity of thought. And evolution is important in the sense that to stay on one place you have to run very fast.
So it’s sort of a tool for regress. Honestly - similar to the Web itself. It was intended as a hypertext system for scientists. For social interaction there were e-mail and e-news.
I’m thinking - I thought always that Sun is a very cool company, but at the same time they are also the ones who’ve popularized this messy understanding of the future in which, with some commercial adjustments by today’s big tech, we still live. And that understanding was highly centralist, sort of a digital empire.
Maybe only those are worthy to survive this technology addiction disease.
outliers badly served by advanced averaging machine
Who knew
Only corporate executives benefit from AI.
Everyone else is harmed, both directly and indirectly, and it makes the customer experience far worse because workers are replaced by chatbots that are incapable of understanding.
From what I’ve seen, the only people that have a positive view of AI are those who see themselves as the master of others. The trans, nonbinary, & disabled people in this study are very unlikely to fit that mold.
Sorry cis male here I find AI negatively. This article is bullshit trying to separate us. We should all be appalled by AI.
You’re probably overthinking this. To me it shows that this technology, which is often advertised as a tool to level the playing field and “democratize” industries is viewed as doing the exact opposite. Those who should benefit the most from it feel threatened and it looks like we’re moving closer to techno feudalism by the day as LLMs are squeezed into everything without thought. Fascists tend to love AI, use AI and advance AI. That makes the technology a natural enemy of many minorities.
The survey concludes that transgender, non-binary and disabled people tend to view AI more negatively than others. Nothing about this statistical result implies that there aren’t plenty of people in other groups, like you, who view AI negatively. It makes a claim about statistical trends.
If you read a report on statistical trends and repond “That’s bullshit! It doesn’t describe me!” it suggests you’re missing the point of surveys and statistics. The survey is quite compatible with many non-disabled cis men disliking AI a lot.
Its a peice designed to position those people as less intelligent. Same type if bullshit as in the 20s - 70s
Not “more negatively”. A higher proportion of that group view it the same amount of negative.
“more likely”
Plenty of non-chatbots applications that do help the regular user though. Even if most of it is corporate bullshit, some of it isn’t.
Like for example VLC using it for subtitles on any video you have, in any language you want and automatically synced correctly. That they hallucinate a couple of times doesn’t really matter in that context.
Roughly 50% of transgender and/or non-binary people are software developers and roughly 50% are furry artists, so it makes sense we would be more wary of AI.
I use arch, btw.
Trans nonby software dev who dated a furry artist, my disdain for AI knows no limits.
I use Nobara, btw. (Is Arch good I’ve never looked into it)
It can be a tiny bit involved to install but if you know your way around Linux already it’s perfectly doable. The arch wiki is a great reference for MANY things and it has a dedicated page with installation instructions.
I like that it’s lightweight because it comes with the bare minimum for a working Linux install and everything on top of that must be explicitly installed by you. I also love pacman (the package manager). It’s never borked anything for me and I’ve yet to be dropped into a dependency hell in 6+ years of using it.
I got in a dependency loop one time. It was my own damn fault 😂
Wait, if I’m not a software developer, then I must be a furry artist 🫣 The things I learn about myself on the internet… xd
Well, some are both software developers and furry artists, which I guess frees you up to be some other, hidden, third thing. Which I’m going to guess is either bass guitar player or train driver?
Never anger the cook, the janitor, or the handyman or some such.
But also never anger the gay bi sexual half kitsune half dragon werewolf that controls your access to the internet.
DO provide them with warm rocks to bask on and loads of weed and warm blankets. Bonus points if you can provide these things with out having to have direct communication and tire their social battery out.
Sysadmin is an adequate pastiche, you don’t need to specify the exact queer animal person they are.
Eeh we’re not all furries it’s more like 1 in 4 of us.
If the remaining three aren’t out, I’m not going to take that choice from them :p
God, the number of people here who don’t know what “more likely” means is insane. Just because you aren’t trans, enby or disabled doesn’t mean the study is bullshit because you hate AI. It means that if you walk up to a random person and ask them about AI, they’re more likely to hate it if they exist in one of those groups.
Secondly, studies like this have value because they can clue people into issues that a community is having. If everyone is neutral about a thing, except for disabled people (who hate it), then maybe that means that the thing is having a disproportionately negative impact on disabled people. Studies like this are not unlike saying “hey, there’s smoke over there, there might be a fire.”
The thing is, EVERYONE hates AI except for a very small number of executives and the few tech people who are falling for the bullshit the same way so many fell for crypto.
It’s like saying a survey indicates that trans people are more likely to hate American ISP’s. Everyone hates them and trans people are underrepresented in the population of ISP shareholders and executives. It doesn’t say anything about the trans community. It doesn’t provide any actionable or useful information.
It’s stating something uninteresting but applying a coat of rainbow paint to try to get clicks and engagement.
You might be living in an echo chamber. Most Americans use AI at least sometimes and plenty use it regularly according to studies.
We could argue all day over who is experiencing reality or who is in an echo chamber.
Pew Research found that US adults who are not “AI Experts” are more likely to view AI as negative and harmful.
We could argue all day over who is experiencing reality or who is in an echo chamber.
We could, or you could read the article where it addresses exactly that point. Most demographics are slightly positive on AI, with some neutral and only nonbinary people as slightly negative. The representative US sample is at 4.5/7.
https://fedia.io/m/[email protected]/t/2531490/-/comment/11832636
You might be living in an echo chamber. Most Americans use AI at least sometimes and plenty use it regularly according to studies.
You literally are right here accusing me of being in an echo chamber for thinking Americans view AI negatively, then when I back that up with a source you are now… Claiming that the article says that.
Except that the whole “most demographics are positive on AI” piece that you toss in counters your own countering of my disagreement. You’re talking in circles here.
It’s also worth noting this article is using a sample size of 700 and doesn’t go all that heavily into the methodology. The author describes themself as a “social computing scholar” and states that they purposefully oversampled these minority groups.
The conclusion is nothing but wasted time and clicks. You’re in this thread telling people to “read the article” and I’m in here to warn people that it’s not worth their time to do so.
And this is part of a trend I’ve noticed on Lemmy lately: people posting obviously bad articles, users commenting that the articles are bad, and usually about 3-4 other users in the comments arguing and trying to drive more engagement to the article. More clicks, more ad revenue.
On a tangent, to me as an outsider it seems that most Americans are more likely to view anything as negative. I have no scientific backing for my shitpost though.
It’s hard to be positive here.
The average person is not informed enough to even be aware of the problems with AI. Look at how aggressively AI is being marketed, and realize that this marketing works.
No, it’s interesting.
These findings are consistent with a growing body of research showing how AI systems often misclassify, perpetuate discrimination toward or otherwise harmtrans and disabled people. In particular, identities that defy categorization clash with AI systems that are inherently designed to reduce complexity into rigid categories. In doing so, AI systems simplify identities and can replicate and reinforce bias and discrimination – and people notice.
Makes sense.
These systems exist to sand off the rough edges of real life artifacts and interactions, and these are people who’ve spent their whole lives being treated like an imperfection that just needs to be smoothed out.
Why would you not be wary?
