Four months ago, we asked Are LLMs making Stack Overflow irrelevant? Data at the time suggested that the answer is likely “yes:”

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    21 days ago

    Ever ask a question on SO? I tell my students to search there but never, ever ask a question. The unmitigated hostility is not what new developers need or deserve. ChatGPT won’t humiliate you for asking a question that someone else has already asked.

    • Domi@lemmy.secnd.me
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      20 days ago

      ChatGPT won’t humiliate you for asking a question that someone else has already asked.

      I don’t know, being told what a good question that was and what a good boy I am everytime I ask a stupid question feels pretty humiliating.

      (Still better than SO)

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        19 days ago

        That’s a pretty recent development, isn’t it? I remember ChatGPT being a lot more matter of factly earlier on.

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          19 days ago

          Yep, old ChatGPT was much more blunt and factual.

          Don’t really like the recent trend of every LLM talking to me like I’m in kindergarten.

    • OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml
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      21 days ago

      If LLMs just copied stack overflow they’d respond to every question with “Closed as duplicate. Question already answered.”

      • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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        21 days ago

        and link a slightly similar question, which’s answers can’t be used in your case, because of the small difference. also, it’s outdated since four years.

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    20 days ago

    Not necessarily directly, many people may have abandoned learning programming because of LLMs, rather than Stack Overflow specifically.

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      20 days ago

      I don’t think such trend would be so big. And anyone who has used any LLM for programming learns very quickly that those are very far from replacing anyone

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        20 days ago

        People who know programming already, yes. People who are getting into it / want to get into it, see it as an amazing shortcut.

        I had two working students already, who thought and communicated that they don’t really need to learn programming, because they can do it with ChatGPT / Q. It was quite infuriating.

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          1 day ago

          students

          When I was a student I despised the idea of typeless var in C#. Then a few years later at my day job I fully embraced C++ auto. I understand the frustration but unfortunately being wrong is part of learning

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        20 days ago

        For real. You can tell how good a programmer someone is, by how good they think an LLM is at programming.

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          20 days ago

          I use it to bounce ideas around with or get it to direct me in the right direction if I am stumped for further research, but it will be a cold day in Hell before I have it write more than the most gruntiest of grunt boilerplate code. It just can’t do it to a useful standard without a lot of oversight.

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            19 days ago

            Same, it’s largely doing pretty much as the article implies, replacing StackOverflow for when I need the correct runes to do something specific.

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    21 days ago

    So here’s what I don’t get. LLMs were trained on data from places like SO. SO starts losing users ,and thus content. Content that LLMs ingest to stay relevant.

    So where will LLMs get their content after a certain point? Especially for new things that may come out or unique situations. It’s not like it’ll scrape the answer from a web page if people are just asking LLMs.

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      21 days ago

      The need for the service that SO provided won’t go away. Eventually people will migrate to new places to discuss. LLM creators will either constantly scrape those as well, forcing them to implement more and more countermeasures and GenAI-poison, or the services themselves will enshittify and sell our content (i.e. the commons) to LLM-creators.